FAQ

Frequently Asked Questions

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QUESTIONS

Signup

  1. I already have a Khan Academy account, do I create a new one for MATHletes Challenge?

  2. My teacher has signed me up with a Khan Academy account, do I need to signup individually too?

  3. I have been working out of 2 accounts in Khan Academy. Can you merge them so that I get the points for both?

  4. My class were already set up in my Khan Academy coach account. Is it ok to continue with that account?

  5. A student has already been working in Khan Academy, but now I am entering the whole school - do I create a new account for the student?

  6. Must I obtain a parent’s email for each of my 5th and 6th class primary students in order to partake in the MATHletes Challenge?

  7. Is there an easy way to “bulk” add students without email addresses, rather than having to sign them up one at a time?

  8. There are several teachers in my school who teach the eligible classes. Does each teacher need to submit a MATHletes registration form?

 

Online Challenge Phase: Working on Khan Academy

  1. My school has blocked youtube, so the students cannot access the videos on Khan Academy. Any suggestions?

  2. Do I still earn points if I work on the Khan Academy app, instead of on the computer?

  3. Is there a required or suggested amount of time for students to spend on Khan Academy as part of the Challenge?

  4. What is the difference between the Challengers League and the Champions League?

  5. I qualified for the Champions League but don’t want to be in it. Can you move me?

  6. How do we earn points in the Challenge?

  7. How do I calculate my mastery points? Is this different than my “energy points” in Khan Academy?

  8. How do I know what mission I should be working on?

  9. I have finished the mission now what do I do? If I work on another mission my points still be counted?

 

Weekly Challenges

  1. What is the Weekly Challenge?

  2. What is the difference between the Students submitting an answer and the class submitting an answer? Should I do both?

  3. Do the Weekly Challenges give me extra points on the leaderboards?

 

Leaderboards

  1. Why have my points not changed since Friday, even though I have been doing work in Khan Academy ?

  2. What are the leaderboards based on?

  3. Why is my name/school not appearing on the leaderboard?

  4. What are the Monthly Leaderboards?

  5. If the leaderboards start with a “clean slate” each month, does that mean all points I have earned so far in the Challenge are lost?

  6. What are the awards for the monthly cups?

 

The Championship Phase (aka Playoffs)

  1. What is the Championship Phase of the Challenge?

  2. Are there in-person events for schools?

  3. How do I qualify for the finals? How many people are invited?

  4. What do the finals look like?

  5. When are the playoffs?

 

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ANSWERS

SIGN-UP

 

I already have a Khan Academy account, do I create a new one for MATHletes Challenge?

No, you can signup at www.khanacademy.org/mathletes and login with your existing account.

 

My teacher has signed me up with a Khan Academy account, do I need to signup individually too?

No, if you are added to your teacher’s account, and your teacher has selected to enter all the students in your class in the individual challenge as well as the schools challenge, you will automatically be entered in both. You do NOT need to signup as a student as well.

 

I have been working out of 2 accounts in Khan Academy. Can you merge them so that I get the points for both?

No, only one account per student can be entered in the Challenge. You will have to choose one account to continue working on, and email info@mathletes.ie with the username of the other account in order to delete it.

 

My class were already set up in my Khan Academy coach account. Is it ok to continue with that account?

Yes – your students should use their existing accounts when competing in the MATHletes Challenge 2015. They should NOT create new accounts just for the Challenge.

As a teacher, you should go to www.khanacademy.org/mathletes, click on “Teachers Signup Here” and login with your existing Khan Academy account.

Once you have completed the MATHletes signup form, you will need to do is make sure that the students are sorted into the classes based on their class/year, and that the classes are named according to the required MATHletes naming conventions. You can easily edit the name of the class by going to “Manage Class” in your coach dashboard and clicking the “Edit” button next to the Class name in the top bar.

You can find more information on the naming requirements on the Signup section of the website for teachers. You can also watch this short video on managing your MAThletes Classes.

 

A student has already been working in Khan Academy, but now I am entering the whole school - do I create a new account for the student?

No, the student should continue to work out of his/her existing account, so as not to lose all of the work that they have done. You will locate the CLASS CODE for the mathletes class to which you want to add the student. Then, have the student login to their account and locate the “Coaches” section of learning dashboard (or type www.khanacademy.org/coaches). They will enter the class code you gave them on the left, this will enter them in your MATHletes class.

 

Must I obtain a parent’s email for each of my 5th and 6th class primary students in order to partake in the MATHletes Challenge?

Khan Academy requires students who are under 13 to have a parents email for each child to verify their account – this is because a US law forbids children under 13 to have their own email accounts.

For the MATHletes Challenge, all students under 13 must obtain a parent permission slip in order to compete in the Student Challenge. On this permission slip, a parent may elect for you to create a school based account for their child. In this case, teachers in the past have created a generic ‘parent’ school email account (that is different from the one used to login to Khan Academy), and then add this email account when prompted for a parent email for students under 13. This allows the teacher to confirm the student account and manage the process, rather than asking parents to do it outside of school time. See our FAQ on getting students signed up in bulk for more on how this works.

You can also watch our 5-min video on adding students to classes, or for more information on different ways of getting your class online, Khan Academy has How to get your class online guide.

 

Is there an easy way to “bulk” add students without email addresses, rather than having to sign them up one at a time?

Khan Academy advises that at this time, there isn’t an easy way for bulk creation of accounts without email addresses. If the school offers students email addresses, then the teacher can copy and paste in the emails to send out invitations in bulk.

There are the current options for teachers to sign up their class of students individually in their How to get your class online guide. Khan Academy is aware of the issue, and is considering options – there are privacy and data security concerns for children.

We are aware that signing up large groups of under-13 students can be particularly cumbersome. One option is that if all parents sign the U-13 Permission slip (template available for download here), and check the box to allow the teacher to enter their child in the Challenge and use Khan Academy using a ‘school-based account’, teachers may enter a another single school email address as the ‘parent email’ for each U-13 student accounts when prompted. This allows the teacher to then quickly verify all student accounts. Teachers who choose this should select to ‘Allow child to add other coaches’, and then have each child enter their parent’s email under the “Coaches” tab on their dashboard. This allows the parent to act as an additional coach and follow their child’s progress.

Still stuck on adding students? Watch this 5-min MATHletes video on adding students to classes


 

There are several teachers in my school who teach the eligible classes. Does each teacher need to submit a MATHletes registration form?

In order to get your School total, we will need the email addresses for all teachers’ Khan Academy accounts who have students participating in the Challenge.

If your school chooses to create one account that all teachers can log into, with separate class lists that is okay as well. Just remember that all communications for the Challenge will go to that single email address. If you have questions about this, please email schools@mathletes.ie and we would be happy to work with you.

 

ONLINE CHALLENGE PHASE: WORKING ON KHAN ACADEMY

 

My school has blocked youtube, so the students cannot access the videos on Khan Academy. Any suggestions?

There are 6 levels of filtering at National level through the national broadband service – schools need to be on level 4 to access YouTube (3,2,1 have no access to YouTube) – as far as we are aware this is a local call by the school, depending on their requirement. You can contact the National Broadband Helpline on 1800 33 44 66. Your principal may / may not wish to have the level changed.

If YouTube is not an option, we suggest the following:

  • Guide students to not use videos; since they are focused on practicing skills, they can use the step-by-step hints if they need help.

  • Work with your administration on YouTube for Schools, which focuses on education safe content.

  • Encourage students to participate in the Challenge at home on their own devices. Working on Khan Academy does not need to take place during school hours, and they will still gain points for their School. You can assign specific exercises playlists for your students to do after school hours, or they can login and work independently on their own self-assessed platform.

 

Do I still earn points if I work on the Khan Academy app, instead of on the computer?

Yes, as long as you login with the same account to the app, all of your points on any device will be counted.

 

Is there a required or suggested amount of time for students to spend on Khan Academy as part of the Challenge?

No, we do not have requirements or guidelines on how much time students should spend on Khan Academy during the Challenge. However, like any sport or skill that you are developing, consistent regular practice is often more important than spending an extended period of time at once. The Khan Academy system also requires that a certain amount of time passes (approximately 16 hours) before new Mastery Challenges pop up with the newly practiced skills, so students who work regularly on the site are able to access more mastery challenges than those who only login once a week.

 

What is the difference between the Challengers League and the Champions League?

Please see this page for more information on the 2 leagues, including qualification and scoring.

 

I qualified for the Champions League but don’t want to be in it. Can you move me?

No, qualification is automatic and we cannot move you. If you don’t want to be in the Champions league, you would have to create a new account and start from scratch. You cannot move between leagues, they are set when the student joins the Challenge.

 

How do we earn points in the Challenge?

Leaderboard points are earned by having students work in their Khan Academy learning dashboard, practicing exercises, and taking mastery challenges. Students should be working in their designated MATHletes Challenge mission or above to earn points. Students may work during or after school hours, there are no set limits.

A full breakdown on how mastering skills in Khan Academy translates to points can be found here. Note that there is a slightly different scoring formula if students are in the Challenger or Champions League

 

How do I calculate my mastery points? Is this different than my “energy points” in Khan Academy?

Overall ranking in the Challenge is determined by the number of Mastery skill levels that you achieve in Khan Academy (Practiced = 1 MATHletes mastery point, Level 1 = 1.5 MATHletes mastery points, Level 2 = 2.5 MATHletes mastery points, Level 3 = 3 MATHletes mastery points). Energy points are listed so that you can compare your own energy points in your dashboard to the top leaders, but they are not the basis for the rankings.

 

To calculate your Total Mastery Points:

  • Log into your Khan Academy account

  • Click on “Skills Progress” which is located in the left sidebar of the page. This lists of all skills and how well you have progressed in each of them, varying from ‘needs practise’ to ‘Mastered’

  • You get: Practiced = 1 mastery point, Level 1 = 1.5 mastery points (+.5 for leveling up), Level 2 = 2.5 mastery points (+1 for leveling up), Level 3 = 3 mastery points (+.5 for leveling up)

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Add these together to find your mastery points since you started on Khan Academy. At the moment, you cannot see on your dashboard WHEN you achieved mastery for each of the skills, so you may not be able to calculate your mastery points for a specific time (i.e. for the month of March). We hope to have this for future Challenges.

 

How do I know what mission I should be working on?

You should set your classes on an appropriate Mission in Khan Academyto focus student learning. Students must ‘accept’ this mission via the notifications in the top bar of their account.

 

I have finished the mission now what do I do? If I work on another mission my points still be counted?

Students may work above or slightly below this mission and their points will count, but note that easy skills mastered in ‘Early Math’ may not count depending on students/class/year. The goal is to earn points by working on challenging material, not just gather easy points.

Individual students can change their own mission by watching this. If you are a teacher and want to set one or a few of your students on easier or more difficult material based on ability level, you should have that/those student(s) change their own mission.

 

WEEKLY CHALLENGES

 

What is the Weekly Challenge?

Every Wednesday, we will send you an email with the Weekly Challenge for your students. You have 1 week to complete the Challenge. There are 2 parts each week:

(1) Two focus exercises in Khan Academy.

(2) A weekly Training Problem.

  • The focus exercises, like all work in Khan Academy, contributes to students’s; leaderboards points. The focus exercises will help student solve the training problem by practicing key skills. You can assign focus exercises by making a coaching recommendation, or students can click on the focus exercise links for their class/year on the Focus Exercise table at mathletes.ie

  • The Training Problem is submitted by individuals or as a whole class at Mathletes.ie. The training problems are extra practice and potential provincial final qualification tiebreakers, but do not count for leaderboard points. Students and classes who get the correct answer are listed in the Weekly Challenge Winners Circle and can download a badge.

 

What is the difference between the Students submitting an answer and the class submitting an answer? Should I do both?

You may assign the exercises & training problem for students to complete individually, or you may work on the problems together as a class and submit one answer. We leave this to each teacher to decide what is most motivating in your classroom.

 

Do the Weekly Challenges give me extra points on the leaderboards?

Weekly Challenge training problems do not give students extra MATHletes Mastery points and do not have a direct impact on leaderboard standings – they are used as a ‘tiebreaker’ in the case of ties in playoff qualification. The main part of the Challenge is working independently in Khan Academy: all of students’ work in their KA accounts will give them points for the leaderboards, including (but not only) the weekly focus exercises.

 

LEADERBOARDS

 

Why have my points not changed since Friday, even though I have been doing work in Khan Academy ?

MATHletes leaderboards are posted every Friday. They do not update in real-time during the week. Points are pulled at 6pm each Thursday for the Friday leaderboards.

 

What are the leaderboards based on?

Leaderboard standings are based on work in Khan Academy. Weekly Training problem winners are listed in the Weekly Challenge Winners Circle, but this does not have an impact on leaderboard standings

 

Why is my name/school not appearing on the leaderboard?

For students who were entered by their teacher, please check the following:

  1. Log into your Khan Academy account. Click on your KA user name in the top right corner, and go to ‘Profile’ in the dropdown. On that profile page, click on ‘Coaches’ tab on the right.’ Your teacher’s email should be listed under your existing coaches on the right side of the screen. If your teacher is not there, you will need to ask them for your Class Code in Khan Academy, which you will add under “Add your class code” in the left box of the Coaches page.

  2. If your teacher is listed, they might not have you in a class, or they might have named their class incorrectly for MATHletes. Ask them to check that their classes are named correctly (see teacher instructions below)

For teachers who don’t see their classes, please check the following common issues:

There are a couple of reasons your school may not be appearing:

  1. If you signed up your class for the Challenge after Thursday at 6pm, your points and school will appear until following week’s leaderboards.

  2. Have you named your mathletes classes correctly and added students to those classes? Unless your students are all added to a mathletes-named class, their points will not be counted.(see the signup page for more on this, and see table below for correct class names). You can edit the class name in your Khan Academy coach account by going into “Manage Students” for the class, clicking on “edit” next to the class’s name in the top dark blue header.

  3. This video on Managing MATHletes Classes shows you how to double check that your students are correctly added and sorted for the Challenge.

  4. You can email info@mathletes.ie if you think your points are inaccurate or you are missing from the leaderboards. If there are specific students who are not appearing, please send their usernames.

MATHletes class naming conventions

ROI classes/year name
NI class/year name
4thclassmathletes primary6mathletes
5thclassmathletes primary7mathletes
6thclassmathletes year8mathletes
1styearmathletes year9mathletes
2ndyearmathletes year10mathletes
3rdyearmathletes year11mathletes
TY4thyearmathletes year12mathletes
5thyearmathletes year13mathletes

 

What are the Monthly Leaderboards?

In addition to the overall Challenge leaderboards (which count all points from January 5th), we also have 4 individual Monthly Challenges. These are great for schools who started a bit late, but still want to make their mark, or to set your students to make a sprint effort for one month of the Challenge

How it works: Every month, we reset the monthly leaderboards at 0. Students’s points are not lost they will continue to be counted for the overall leaderboards. However, only their progress in Khan Academy from the first of the month will count for that month’s leaderboards.

 

If the leaderboards start with a “clean slate” each month, does that mean all points I have earned so far in the Challenge are lost?

No. Students’ and Schools’ points from the previous month are not lost! Your points will be kept and added to your Overall score at the end of the competition to determine the All-Ireland Finalists.

Both the overall and monthly leaderboards influence qualification for playoffs.

 

What are the awards for the monthly cups?

Top students at the end of the month will receive a certificate from the MATHletes Challenge, posted to their home or school. The winning 4 schools at the end of the month will be presented with the Monthly Challenge Cup. There are 2 primary winners and 2 secondary winners - for total skills mastered, and points per eligible student. Someone from the MATHletes Challenge will be in touch with you if your schools is selected.

 

The Championship Phase (aka Playoffs)

 

What is the Championship Phase of the Challenge?

The Championship Phase of the MATHletes Challenge involves the Provincial and All-Ireland in person student final events. These in-person events bring together the top MATHletes from across the province and the island of Ireland to compete.

 

Are there in-person events for schools?

No. The Schools Challenge is based entirely on students’ online work in Khan Academy. Only the individual students have in-person events, though the top schools are invited to the All-Ireland Championship for the awards announcement.

 

How do I qualify for the finals? How many people are invited?

Students qualify for the playoffs based on the work that they are doing in Khan Academy. This includes primarily their position/performance, movement, and effort put into the overall and monthly leaderboards. The exact number of provincial finalists will be determined based on the number of participants and overall performance of competitors.

All-Ireland finalist qualification is based primarily on performance at the provincial final, though work on Khan Academy over the course of the whole challenge is an additional criteria applied at selection.

 

What do the finals look like?

There are several ‘events’ at each round of the finals. One part is working on Khan Academy, one part is similar to the training problems in the Weekly Challenge, and the third is a group-based “team” event.

 

When are the playoffs?

Provincial playoffs are on Saturday, April 18th and the All-Ireland Championship is on Saturday, May 2nd. In almost all cases, you must attend the provincial playoffs in order to qualify for the All-Ireland. Certain exceptions may be made for top leaderboard performers, but these are rare.